Send him love roses Rocky. :bananalla
That sounds pretty clear to me now. Thanks for explaining. 
Well, unless you show some pace, say like at least 1.5-2sec of the best pace, it's hard to see a reason how could you ever be fast. If you can do that with the help these people have given you and find a bit more even, then we can help you. 
Edit: I remember when I was in demo and I was around that much off WR after some good laps on that combo and one of the friends came along and said to watch WR replay and so I did and then went driving and then again I watched it and doing this over and over on that combo back then was the way I learned, soon enough I was under 1sec of wr, then under 0.5sec etc., never took it down though as I got bored and bought S2, though I once had sc2 for wr. xD But you know I was mad, I drove that bl1/xrt for a year and a half, with wheel, then wheel got broken, than mouse, then a wheel again... and then when I got to S2 I was always within 1sec on all combos tbh.
So, the point is, don't try too many combos and have too much fun, be hardcore and hotlap something till death as I did bl1/xrt. Now don't go drive as3, it's too easy track, say take as7 and you will learn there how to drive anything. Just try it for a week, hotlap it and watch wr and see how it goes. I give to you to pick a car. :P
Edit: I remember when I was in demo and I was around that much off WR after some good laps on that combo and one of the friends came along and said to watch WR replay and so I did and then went driving and then again I watched it and doing this over and over on that combo back then was the way I learned, soon enough I was under 1sec of wr, then under 0.5sec etc., never took it down though as I got bored and bought S2, though I once had sc2 for wr. xD But you know I was mad, I drove that bl1/xrt for a year and a half, with wheel, then wheel got broken, than mouse, then a wheel again... and then when I got to S2 I was always within 1sec on all combos tbh.
So, the point is, don't try too many combos and have too much fun, be hardcore and hotlap something till death as I did bl1/xrt. Now don't go drive as3, it's too easy track, say take as7 and you will learn there how to drive anything. Just try it for a week, hotlap it and watch wr and see how it goes. I give to you to pick a car. :P
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Evo jos jedan set. Malo prvi dojmovi. Staza je mrak. Ovo ko propusti ne zna sta propusta. Pretjecanje je stvarno umjetnost ovdje. A sikana, i nije toliko strasna kako se na prvi pogled cinilo. Auto je taman toliko brz da se moze fino pogodit svaki puta na ulazu, na izlazu tu i tamo, bas je na granici. 
Druga runda - Najava
Jedna od tezih utrka je pred nama, sa krugom od skoro tri minute ovo ce biti jedina utrka na Fern Bayu na kom iskreno i nema laganih utrka. LX4, izuzetno lagan auto je pravi izazov i uzitak sa dobrim setupom preko pasica na ovoj stazi. Staza iako je uska ima nekoliko mjesta za pretjecanje. LX4 donekle mozemo usporediti sa TBO klasom koju cemo voziti kasnije.
Moglo bi se lagano pocet trenirat, da nas ona sikana na pola staze ne bi lovila tokom trka. Tako da, nemojte bit obeshrabreni ako vam je kombo tezak, jer bit ce ponovno laksih komboa kasnije kroz sezonu.
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Moglo bi se lagano pocet trenirat, da nas ona sikana na pola staze ne bi lovila tokom trka.
Tako da, nemojte bit obeshrabreni ako vam je kombo tezak, jer bit ce ponovno laksih komboa kasnije kroz sezonu.Svima koji su na moru zelim ugodan boravak tamo i dobar provod.
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I'd recommend you to join one league where you have a given combo for a week or two to prepare your setup for qualifying and the race. Of course too much of one combo gets boring, so there is always cargame etc. to improve your race craft and have casual fun along the way.
Allow passing on race start before the S/F line.
Single file restarts.
On a normal, standing, race start passing is allowed before start/finish, as well in all other LFS series and in real life when Rolling starts are used. It's unnatural for drivers to hold their position with cars left or right and in front and behind. Once the green flag is dropped the instinct is to get the best out of it.
Race restarts are different and since single file is then used it's absolutely normal for leader to set pace and have overtaking allowed only after s/f is crossed since the yellow flag period was there because of someones misfortune, all the gaps had been closed so it's only normal to prevent people getting a jump in this situation. But on race starts it's a clean ground for everyone and these two should be distincted.
In rules I don't see passing forbidden before s/f on race start on rolling start, but there is a picture showing double file and passing being illegal, so it's a bit contradictory. Maybe it's because you've been using double file on race restarts so far, if so, then single file should be in place for race restarts.
Maybe you don't want to follow the rest of the world in this two areas, but those rules are commonly used everywhere because they work the best and also those rules are the most fair. Though, maybe nascar racing uses different rules, this series (World TBO Championship) is not oval racing and it would be hugely welcome if you would use circuit racing rules for this two situations.
Single file restarts.
On a normal, standing, race start passing is allowed before start/finish, as well in all other LFS series and in real life when Rolling starts are used. It's unnatural for drivers to hold their position with cars left or right and in front and behind. Once the green flag is dropped the instinct is to get the best out of it.
Race restarts are different and since single file is then used it's absolutely normal for leader to set pace and have overtaking allowed only after s/f is crossed since the yellow flag period was there because of someones misfortune, all the gaps had been closed so it's only normal to prevent people getting a jump in this situation. But on race starts it's a clean ground for everyone and these two should be distincted.
In rules I don't see passing forbidden before s/f on race start on rolling start, but there is a picture showing double file and passing being illegal, so it's a bit contradictory. Maybe it's because you've been using double file on race restarts so far, if so, then single file should be in place for race restarts.
Maybe you don't want to follow the rest of the world in this two areas, but those rules are commonly used everywhere because they work the best and also those rules are the most fair. Though, maybe nascar racing uses different rules, this series (World TBO Championship) is not oval racing and it would be hugely welcome if you would use circuit racing rules for this two situations.
Franky, admins made a mistake then, they had to make up for it.
I've read that before posting. You should too, still it doesn't answer the questions I've posted.
Are we still going to have rolling starts with that ridiculous gridding, or you can do that in the lfs menu with pace car up front, where you actually call all the drivers to join the track after quali has ended so everyone inherits their quali position and you just add Pace car then. And is overtaking allowed as soon as green flag drops on race starts with double rows grid?
Also, is there any mandatory pit-stops or pit-windows.
I ask these questions because I don't see the rulebook for this season.
Also, is there any mandatory pit-stops or pit-windows.
I ask these questions because I don't see the rulebook for this season.
BTCC wreckzor style racing might ruin it more, yes. :juggle:
If it is how you say it is Joe, then you have no problem with static driver position through the season. And I would love to fight you left vs right hand side, ha. :P
The most of us actually enjoy exactly this sim for its realism. The rest has various different reasons. And realism is not the only reason why I enjoy it, it's amongst the top if not the top reason. If you can't understand this, then this is probably why you're constantly in conflict with so many things.
Ok. But he isn't really batteling for the championship then is he? And the schedule is already made in a way to make this impossible.
I agree with this.
The most of us actually enjoy exactly this sim for its realism. The rest has various different reasons. And realism is not the only reason why I enjoy it, it's amongst the top if not the top reason. If you can't understand this, then this is probably why you're constantly in conflict with so many things.
Ok. But he isn't really batteling for the championship then is he? And the schedule is already made in a way to make this impossible.
I agree with this.
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Greatly appreciated Cornys. The reason why I haven't made suggestion about forced cockpit view is the same you just mentioned. And then it's not in that much of a trouble to have static driver position as dynamic one is rarely used by only few people anyway.
I've just reread Joe's post and I can see he has mentioned some reason, however it's not very true what he said about it.
The bigger the weight, the bigger the power, the bigger the effect of everything is generally how it goes. You'll notice as the car gets faster its actually more sensitive to setup changes (and most changes control how mass behaves through the car).
Let me explain why we mostly see driver sides used in UF1. It's the competition that gets the field so dense and then there is time to be found with the drivers sitting position. Now, because UF1 is extremely light this indeed is little bit bigger than in TBO, but still this doesn't mean that if in TBO it wasn't so very used so far and it indeed brings less of an advantage than in UF1 it wouldn't still bring any advantage. Of course, it would. A tenth or a two is enough for it to be an advantage and a tenth is massive when you scrabble for hundredths of a second per lap time.
Then take a look at just general public racing. Noone even bothers swapping drivers position, people just race on the side of a car they prefer because it's just natural for them. But, there always has to be few of the smart ones to stand out and try to gain any advantage they can, no matter how. If this was generally acceptable, then button clutching wouldn't be a problem either.
So, I encourage you to take a look at all sides Cornys before making a decision.
I've just reread Joe's post and I can see he has mentioned some reason, however it's not very true what he said about it.
The bigger the weight, the bigger the power, the bigger the effect of everything is generally how it goes. You'll notice as the car gets faster its actually more sensitive to setup changes (and most changes control how mass behaves through the car).
Let me explain why we mostly see driver sides used in UF1. It's the competition that gets the field so dense and then there is time to be found with the drivers sitting position. Now, because UF1 is extremely light this indeed is little bit bigger than in TBO, but still this doesn't mean that if in TBO it wasn't so very used so far and it indeed brings less of an advantage than in UF1 it wouldn't still bring any advantage. Of course, it would. A tenth or a two is enough for it to be an advantage and a tenth is massive when you scrabble for hundredths of a second per lap time.
Then take a look at just general public racing. Noone even bothers swapping drivers position, people just race on the side of a car they prefer because it's just natural for them. But, there always has to be few of the smart ones to stand out and try to gain any advantage they can, no matter how. If this was generally acceptable, then button clutching wouldn't be a problem either.
So, I encourage you to take a look at all sides Cornys before making a decision.
Well of course Joe disagrees without even explaining the reasons why the idea is bad. He's never been that big on realism, so it's understandable. Perhaps we should fix cockpit view as well, like we had back in the days, after-all it's realism that we're enjoying the most here, together with good racing. 
You don't know what you're talking about. :chair:
It may be to you, for whom the right side is normal and you mostly drive on left side in LFS. For someone who always drives on left side only UF1 is easy to switch sides.
Besides it gives a sort of realism to it to have one side through the season, sort of what you see in some touring car series'.
Static driver sitting position during the season.
Since this is a series where you stick with a single car for entire season and I don't see why this rule couldn't be introduced in a multicar series as well, it would go with your name, realistic, to have every racing driver pick which side of the car he will sit in his brand new car at the race one and then stick with it through the season.
Swapping left and right between the races not only makes it unrealistic, but unfair towards drivers who use cockpit view vs free or follow view and in a tight competition as your series it might turn out to make a difference. You could argue that it takes skill to adjust from driving on one side of the car to another, but this only goes as long as it's cockpit view and quite a few drivers don't go thru that process and rather rape full benefits with other view settings. And you can't argue that cockpit is the fastest view in order for swapping sides to be justified, because it simple isn't. It's only the most enjoyable and as fast as any other. I say most enjoyable, because it's by far the most challenging for spacial awareness within a close battle.
Since this is a series where you stick with a single car for entire season and I don't see why this rule couldn't be introduced in a multicar series as well, it would go with your name, realistic, to have every racing driver pick which side of the car he will sit in his brand new car at the race one and then stick with it through the season.
Swapping left and right between the races not only makes it unrealistic, but unfair towards drivers who use cockpit view vs free or follow view and in a tight competition as your series it might turn out to make a difference. You could argue that it takes skill to adjust from driving on one side of the car to another, but this only goes as long as it's cockpit view and quite a few drivers don't go thru that process and rather rape full benefits with other view settings. And you can't argue that cockpit is the fastest view in order for swapping sides to be justified, because it simple isn't. It's only the most enjoyable and as fast as any other. I say most enjoyable, because it's by far the most challenging for spacial awareness within a close battle.
Thank you Chrono and thank you Provost. 
Entry Number: 09
Driver Name: Nikifor Đaković
LFS World: N I K I
Nation: Bosnia and Herzegovina
Team Affiliation: Ixion Simsports
Car Selection: XRT
Driver Name: Nikifor Đaković
LFS World: N I K I
Nation: Bosnia and Herzegovina
Team Affiliation: Ixion Simsports
Car Selection: XRT
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